Before Grace Sadura and I even started recording this episode, I knew this would be a very different kind of conversation.
A little “inside baseball” here for you. Before I press that “record” button, I always run through a few things with each guest to make sure they feel prepped and ready to go. Things like asking for the proper pronunciation of their name and whether I missed anything in the questions they’d like to share. I end this part by asking if the guest has any questions for me. Grace caught me off guard with her response.
She asked me a few questions, including what I’ve learned about myself through my podcasting journey. This led us on a journey of being able to talk about our shared experiences around anxiety issues, which you hear Grace refer to in the episode. This was something I hadn’t shared with a guest before, and it set the tone for the conversation we were about to have.
Grace is one of a kind. She proved how quickly she can relate to people, make them feel comfortable being themselves, and has a maturity that goes beyond her years. There’s no question in my mind why she was so deserving of being nominated for the 2026 Hockey Humanitarian Award.
This was a special conversation for me and one I’ve been excited to share. Grace is easy to root for, and by the end of this episode, I know you’ll agree.
You can watch our full conversation on YouTube here.

